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John Shipton (Guest) |
03/08/2026 13:18 |
There was an incident that happened some time ago when the ruling body of Christian Prison Fellowship decided to remove "Christian" from its title thus becoming just Prison Fellowship. The Rev Tom Marriot from Romford, and one of its founders, resigned from the organisation. With other members resigning, including myself, it caused a stir, for the idea behind this was to align itself with the American version called Prison Fellowship. Three years ago when I asked them about the details about his resignation and did they hold his name as one of its founder, nothing was said or recorded. There is nothing shown on the internet about Christian Prison Fellowship, only Prison Fellowship formed in 1979 by Sylvia Mary Alison, inspired by the American movement started by Charles Colson, a former aide to U.S. President Richard Nixon and founder of U.S. Prison Fellowship in Washington D.C. in 1974. Ah well, back to the drawing board!
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Carol (Guest) |
03/08/2026 11:13 |
Hello Peter. Thankyou for that clarification. I believe my original comment still stands: it's wise not to rush to judgement, on this or indeed on any issue which is, as you say, 'reported'. Truth often is, as the old proverb has it, a daughter of time.
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Peter Morrow (Guest) |
02/08/2026 19:25 |
Hi Carol, As you have quoted my comment perhaps I should respond.
My full comment was: "If any other religious or secular organisation had destroyed Bibles we'd have called it persecution.", which is not so much a "comparison", as you describe it, but an attempt to understand how Christians might respond should another organisation destroy Bibles, and was intended as an illustration to highlight the gravity of the reported action.
Practically speaking of course, you are quite correct. Bibles have not been confiscated from individuals, and churches and people have not been forbidden to read any Bibles, had that happened, it would, as you say, have been persecution. None of those things have happened.
What has happened, however? It is reported that a Christian organisation has destroyed, "12 boxes of new King James Bibles", "and ministry resources donated for Christian education, evangelism and the support of the persecuted Church".
So I'd suggest again, that if any other religious or secular organisation had done this (i.e destroyed Bibles and/or ministry resources), Christians would have referred to those actions as persecution.
That Christians have done it to themselves, is probably worse - and a complete and utter disrespect for God's Word.
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Chris Bright (Guest) |
02/08/2026 17:45 |
Climate change and wildfires: how many of these fires were started by arson? And how many were aggravated by poor vegetation management? Controlled burning of heathland reduces the fire load (fuel available to a fire should it start). Are there enough firebreaks in woodlands and forests? Firebreaks can serve as access roads for emergency vehicles to reach fires. Are dead trees removed to reduce the fire load?
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Keiko Green |
01/08/2026 18:11 |
https://youtu.be/XKX6nQCcMBA?si=31_ZaN3I5hfOomSr
This is Psalm 34 with Arabic accent, with Eastern pronunciation connected to Morroco /yemen.
Sent by Dr Eli Lizorkin who is Russian speaking Jew.
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Carol (Guest) |
01/08/2026 16:12 |
Perhaps it would be wise to wait for the Charity Commission report on their investigation into Barnabas before rushing to judgement on the current situation. Also, it's a bit of a stretch to suggest that the destruction of the Bibles in question can be compared to persecution by 'any other religious or secular organisation'. If Bibles were being confiscated from individuals and churches and people were being forbidden to read any Bible that would certainly be persecution. That's not what has happened in this case.
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Edward Barnes |
01/08/2026 13:28 |
The news from Barnabas Aid is very saddening, but as Tony (among others) has said, perhaps none too surprising. A couple of years ago, I attended an event in a church in Cornhill, London* intended by the new leadership to explain the reasons to remove the Sookhdeo's and their leadership team (who had since then set up abroad, taking with them a previous contact list). While the explanation given was sound (assuming the reasons given were accurate), I came away with many questions and reservations about the new management structure, the relationships with and between "international" Barnabas organisations and role of Nexcus - an unexplained ("shadowy") controlling interest.
As part of a prayer group supporting the suffering church, we had had regular contact with Barnabas Aid, supported projects, attended speaker events etc. Since the change of leadership we have continued child sponsorship (which doesn't appear to have been affected), but have refrained from supporting other projects any further - despite how worthwhile they might appear.
Maybe it's just my perception, but whereas we see the other charities that uphold the causes of persecuted and suffering Christians frequently working together and supporting each other, Barnabas always seemed something of an outlier. Doing good works, undeniably, but often very much alone in doing so. Mutual recognition and co-operation can foster healthy accountability; which sadly appears to given rise to the crisis of leadership at Barnabas - and would still seem to be evident.
*St Michael's, Cornhill (I think). Unfortunately I cannot find the date/notes taken, but remember that it was among several such events held around the country - other recollections would be welcome!
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Diane (Guest) |
31/07/2026 22:35 |
Cannot understand the destruction of Bibles..?? Was it proved beyond doubt Patrick Sookhdeo was guilty l wonder.. all very sad.. l will write to them, along with many others no doubt..
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Tony Pennell (Guest) |
31/07/2026 19:25 |
I'm not at all surprised at the destruction of books at the Barnabas Foundation. Its policies and attitudes have been 'off the rails' ever since the more 'respectable' and well-connected Colin Bloom ousted the Patrick Sookhdeo and the other founding members in a very dubious board-room coup a few years ago. I stopped supporting BF from that date. There are other ways to support the persecuted church.
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Suzanne Smith (Guest) |
31/07/2026 16:43 |
I am appalled by what I have just read about the destruction of the Barnabas Foundation. What can we do? Just stopping our donations could do even more harm
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Suzanne Smith (Guest) |
31/07/2026 16:40 |
I am appalled by what I have just read about the Barnabas Foundation, and the CEO, Colin Bloom. I am shocked, too, by the fact that I have only just discovered what has happy. What can we do about this wanton destruction of what has been a fine Christian charity?
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Peter Morrow (Guest) |
31/07/2026 11:42 |
The destruction of books in general, even ones we disagree with, is a highly questionable exercise, but the reported destruction on Bibles by a Christian organisation is entirely out of order. If any other religious or secular organisation had destroyed Bibles we'd have called it persecution.
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